Player Killing - what happened?

[Yavathol]

I have been thinking about starting this quest for a while, maybe because I have too many idle Defenders to keep an eye on, and we all know that idleness leads to trouble...

Anyway, since the differences between the soft and hard PK systems recently came up in another thread, I thought I'd start this one finally.

Kind of seems odd that an RT is starting this thread I know (Being as we aren't allowed to be PK), but let's just say for the sake of argument that I have a few relatives in other guilds...

It seemed like a good idea to just get a general thread going about PK - old system (hard PK) vs. new system (soft PK).  For those of you who weren't around for the previous versions, a short history as I know it.

Originally, I believe the MUD was without guardian angels, which made for some interesting feuds.  There are some other Muds that are still like that, and although they are difficult at early levels, there is certainly more challenge and more potential for riches later on.

The actual "hard" system that we refer to is one that I was around for.  Players could choose to make their characters PK, but it was irreversible.  Once you banished your Guardian Angel there was no way to get it back.  This made things a bit more challenging, but caused some people to complain if they were defeated too often and ended up unable to do much due to being hunted relentlessly.

The current system ("soft") was instituted a few years ago and allows players to become PK for a limited time, and then they get their angels back.  Of course, they can always repeat this cycle indefinately, but they can allow themselves a margin of safety.  I understand that there is the possibility to make the decision permanent, but I don't know anyone who has taken that option.

I think the idea behind the change was well-intentioned, but in the long run the entire Mud seems to have suffered.  Even as an RT I miss the PK duels that we could watch on the village green.  Even if you weren't PK yourself, odds are you had a friend who was, and that friend could often benefit from your assistance.

Personally, I preferred the old system.  I agree with Qwer's statement on another thread that PK was a way of life and now it's just a sport.  I suppose that a third option would be to limit the number of times a player can become PK - perhaps leading more to make it a permanent decision.  That would give new players the option to try it for a limited time, but leave people unable to simply use the option when it suits them (say when someone they want to kill is already injured or down on their luck) but avoiding the retribution by getting their guardian angel back within a short period of time.

Any thoughts? Any PKers who miss opponents?  Any logs!!!!

[Allyene]

// 1998-12-22

Plain <w n s nw sw>.
Zeb the vampire (evil).
A hill giant.
A cute little girl.
Asynichron arrives.
>  k
You burned Zeb.
>  t
You start to turn the great wheel. You rid your mind of all thought,
All is tranquility, all is harmony.

>  Giant missed Zeb.
A powerful lightning is released from the sword.
Party: Experience points divided.
[PK Information] Selene just killed Zeb.
You are victorious!!!
[PK Information] From somewhere deep inside the temple you hear a voice saying:
                             Hail Selene!!!
[Dark] Selene just killed Zeb.
Zeb died.
You enveloped Some mist in roaring flames.
The circle cannot be completed, the focus is lost.
 Some mist blows south.
Party [Asynichron]: woo

*flex*

[Allyene]

// 1999-07-21

You thrust your claws through Albeit's throat.
> ** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Albeit's throat.
> Albeit smiles serenely, and lifts his blade to eye level, the point aimed at
your throat.
You gutted Albeit with a lightning-fast rake of your claws.
** Albeit is in fair shape.
Albeit missed you.
de
Siah arrives.
r
You reach out with your mind, trying to dominate Albeit.
> ** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Albeit's throat.
> Albeit leaves north.
Siah points at herself, and utters a Word Of Power!
Siah's skin bursts out in black flames!
You gutted Siah with a lightning-fast rake of your claws.
You turn to attack Siah.
You are burned!
You evade Siah's attack.
You cut Siah's left shoulder with your claws.
** Siah is in very good shape.
Albeit escaped you.
Siah smiles serenely, and lifts her blade to eye level, the point aimed at your
throat.
r
You evade Siah's attack.
Siah missed you.
You clawed a bleeding wound in Siah's left shoulder.
** Siah is in very good shape.
Siah's skin bursts out in black flames!
You are burned!
** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Siah's throat.
> Siah missed you.
You thrust your claws through Siah's throat.
** Siah is in fair shape.
Siah brings her blade around in a perfect circle. You stare at her in morbid
fascination as the tip cuts your throat.
** BP: xxx/xxx
de
Siah smiles serenely, and lifts her blade to eye level, the point aimed at your
throat.
You reach out with your mind, trying to dominate Siah.
> r
Siah's sword releases a powerful lightning.
** BP: xxx/xxx
Siah burned you.
You clawed a bleeding wound in Siah's throat.
** Siah is in fairly poor shape.
** BP: xxx/xxx
You try to force Siah to stay, but her will is too strong.
Siah's skin bursts out in black flames!
You are burned!
** BP: xxx/xxx
r
> > r
r
> > r
r
> r
> > r
> de
Siah missed you.
You cut Siah's throat with your claws.
** Siah is in fairly poor shape.
Siah brings her blade around in a perfect circle. You stare at her in morbid
fascination as the tip cuts your throat.
Your mind is elsewhere, you cannot dominate Siah.
> Siah drinks a potion.
de
Siah smiles serenely, and lifts her blade to eye level, the point aimed at your
throat.
Your mind is elsewhere, you cannot dominate Siah.
> Siah missed you.
You made Siah's head bleed a little.
** Siah is in good shape.
Siah's skin bursts out in black flames!
You are burned!
You evade Siah's attack.
de
Your mind is elsewhere, you cannot dominate Siah.
> r
r
> > de
You evade Siah's attack.
Siah missed you.
You made Siah's head bleed a little.
** Siah is in good shape.
Siah brings her blade around in a perfect circle. You stare at her in morbid
fascination as the tip cuts your throat.
You evade Siah's attack.
You reach out with your mind, trying to dominate Siah.
> Siah smiles serenely, and lifts her blade to eye level, the point aimed at your
throat.
r
r
** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Siah's throat.
> r
> r
> > r
Siah's sword releases a powerful lightning.
You evade Siah's attack.
Siah missed you.
You sunk your claws deeply into Siah's throat.
** Siah is in fair shape.
** BP: xxx/xxx
You gaze deep into Siah's eyes, holding her in place.
Siah's skin bursts out in black flames!
You are burned!
** BP: xxx/xxx
r
> r
> r
> > r
r
** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Siah's throat.
> > r
r
> r
> > r
r
> r
An endless void engulfs you, and you scream in silent pain as your mind and body
tries to fill it, and fails.
** BP: xxx/xxx
You evade Siah's attack.
Siah missed you.
You mutilated Siah's throat into a bloody mess.
** Siah is in weak shape.
> r
> r
> r
> r
> r
** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Siah's throat.
> r
> > r
r
> r
> r
> r
Siah's sword releases a powerful lightning.
** BP: xxx/xxx
Siah burned you badly.
Your claws ripped into Siah's throat.
** Siah is in very weak shape.
Siah brings her blade around in a perfect circle. You stare at her in morbid
fascination as the tip cuts your throat.
** BP: xxx/xxx
Siah's skin bursts out in black flames!
You are burned!
** BP: xx/xxx
> r
> r
> r
> r
> r
** BP: xx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Siah's throat.
> > r
> ** BP: xx/xxx
Siah scorched you severely.
You gutted Siah with a lightning-fast rake of your claws.
** Siah is in deplorable shape.
** BP: 8/xxx
Siah scorched you severely.
Party: Experience points divided.
[PK Information] Leane just killed Siah.
You are victorious!!!
[PK Information] From somewhere deep inside the temple you hear a voice saying:
                             Hail Leane!!!
You tear the life from Siah with your claws.
Siah died.
You killed Siah.
** BP: 131/xxx
You slowly drain corpse of Siah of all blood.
Some mist's skin bursts out in black flames!
You are burned!
** BP: 116/xxx
Some mist shakes her head as if waking up from a dream.
Some mist blows east.

Check my BP just before the kill  

[Allyene]

>  Pendragon leaves with his falcon north.
 Fireblade takes a focusing crystal from a backpack.
Yunnie leaves with his falcon north.
Behind the village church <w e n s>.
Yunnie's hunting falcon.
Yunnie the Defender of Camelot (good).
Pendragon's hunting falcon.
Pendragon the Defender of Camelot (good).
A dead oak tree.
>  Snuttegumma arrives.
Mkachan arrives.
Unholy arrives.
Yunnie missed Snuttegumma.
k
Snuttegumma grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Pendragon!
 k
> Unholy leaves north.
 Yes, yes.
Unholy arrives.
Pendragon turns to attack Snuttegumma.
>  b
>  You jump onto Pendragon and start to bite him.
> Snuttegumma grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Pendragon!
Unholy hit Pendragon very hard.
 Mkachan cuts Pendragon slightly.
Unholy grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Pendragon!
 Pendragon grazed Snuttegumma.
Yunnie slashed Snuttegumma in the chest.
Snuttegumma slashed Yunnie.
Unholy hit Pendragon hard.
Mkachan's rapier slices deeply into Pendragon's body.
Mkachan cuts Pendragon slightly.
Pendragon's falcon scratches Snuttegumma in the face.
You maul your knifelike fangs into Pendragon.
Yunnie's falcon rips and tears at Snuttegumma's chest.
 b
You can't do that when you are biting.
>  Party: All unfollowing.
Unholy grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Pendragon!
 Snuttegumma grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Pendragon!
 Unholy grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Pendragon!
 Fireblade arrives with its falcon.
Nobody arrives.
Dethor arrives with her falcon.
Snuttegumma grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Pendragon!
 Party: Experience points divided.
Pendragon's falcon flies home.
Pendragon died.
You bloodthirstily rip little pieces from Some mist's body.
Yunnie cut Snuttegumma lightly.
Snuttegumma missed Yunnie.
Yunnie's falcon lands on Snuttegumma's head and pecks lamely at it.
You bite some mist.
 some mist blows south.

[Allyene]

> Whiner arrives with his falcon.
 b
You jump onto Whiner and start to bite him.
>  b
b
You can't do that when you are biting.
> You can't do that when you are biting.
>  b
You can't do that when you are biting.
>  You can't do that when you are biting.
>  You can't do that when you are biting.
>  Mkachan cuts Whiner slightly.
 Mkachan tries to slice Whiner but miss him.
Mkachan tries to slice Whiner but miss him.
You tear a bit of flesh from Whiner.
 Whiner's sword suddenly moves faster.
Whiner nicked Mkachan in the stomach.
Mkachan cuts Whiner so he starts to bleed.
Mkachan's rapier slices deeply into Whiner's body.
You maul your knifelike fangs into Whiner.
 Wetpants arrives.
 Wetpants leaves north.
 Whiner cut Mkachan lightly.
Mkachan tries to slice Whiner but miss him.
Mkachan's rapier slices deeply into Whiner's body.
You bite Whiner.
 Wetpants arrives.
Wetpants leaves west.
 Your sword hums the song of death!
You deal Whiner a stunning blow.
Whiner slashed Mkachan in the chest.
Whiner leaves with his falcon south.
Worker says: If you want the password, ask my friend in the house.
Ingis lane <w e n s>.
Whiner's hunting falcon.
Whiner the Gallant Knight (saintly).
Yunnie's hunting falcon.
Yunnie the Defender of Camelot (good).
You have stopped biting Whiner.
 b
Yunnie leaves with his falcon north.
 Your poison is weak.
>  b
You slashed Whiner.
You slashed Whiner in the chest.
You slashed Whiner.
** HP: 191/202
** Whiner is in very weak shape.
Whiner slashed you in the chest.
Whiner leaves with his falcon south.
 A Khorne Champion like yourself should not disgrace yourself
like that. Khorne demands a sacrifice.
>  bite
Noone to bite.
>  s
Country road <w e n s>.
Whiner's hunting falcon.
Whiner the Gallant Knight (saintly).
>  b
You swing your sword towards Whiner's heart!
You missed Whiner.
You nicked Whiner in the stomach.
You nicked Whiner in the stomach.
 You jump onto Whiner and start to bite him.
>  You put your razor sharp teeth in Whiner.
Whiner's falcon flies home.
Your sword says: SOULS FOR ARIOCH, OUR MASTER!
Whiner died.
 You maul your knifelike fangs into some mist.
 pp
You can't do that when you are biting.
>  ** HP: 193/202
You bite some mist.
 You have stopped biting Whiner.

[Allyene]

// 2000-05-15

> Alderon arrives.
Alderon leaves south.
s
s
Tamashivari island <n s>.
> s
A bend in the road with a SIGN <e n s>.
> s
A dirt track <n s>.
s
> A dirt track <n s>.
> s
A dirt track <n s>.
> s
s
A dirt track <n s>.
> s
Plain near forest <e w n s se sw>.
> s
s
Plain <e w n s ne se nw sw>.
> Gates <e w n s ne nw>.
> s
Main hall <n s>.
A mithril plaque.
> s
Hallway <e w n s>.
Alderon the Defender of Camelot (Defending).
The visitor board, containing 42 notes, 42 unread.
> s
You are forced out of the chamber by some mighty magic.
Hallway <e w n s>.
Alderon the Defender of Camelot (Defending).
The visitor board, containing 42 notes, 42 unread.
> s
You are forced out of the chamber by some mighty magic.
Hallway <e w n s>.
Alderon the Defender of Camelot (Defending).
The visitor board, containing 42 notes, 42 unread.
> s
You are forced out of the chamber by some mighty magic.
Hallway <e w n s>.
Alderon the Defender of Camelot (Defending).
The visitor board, containing 42 notes, 42 unread.
> c
You are forced out of the chamber by some mighty magic.
Hallway <e w n s>.
Alderon the Defender of Camelot (Defending).
The visitor board, containing 42 notes, 42 unread.
> You are forced out of the chamber by some mighty magic.
Hallway <e w n s>.
Alderon the Defender of Camelot (Defending).
The visitor board, containing 42 notes, 42 unread.
> ** HP: 192/202   SP: 140/202
** HP: 192/202   SP: 60/202
> The contagion rips forth from the pores of your skin!
[PK Information] Amaena just killed Alderon.
Poor little Alderon wasn't even worthy.
It will not count, but still, ROCK ON!!
Alderon died.
Alderon is weakened by the contagion.
l
The skin on your right hand flakes away.
** HP: 196/202   SP: 60/202
** HP: 196/202   SP: 64/202
You find yourself in a hallway south of the main hall. White marble
walls shine in the light from candles in every corner. There are
doors on both sides of the hallway, the east one leading to Arthur's
office, and the west one to Merlin's chamber. A board that can be
used by both visitors and knights hangs on one of the walls.
  There are four obvious exits: east, west, north and south.
Corpse of Alderon.
Ghost of Alderon.
The visitor board, containing 42 notes, 42 unread.

[Allyene]

Lookout room in the southern walls <d>.
Dreamon the Defender of Camelot (neutral).
A giant lookout guard.
> exa dreamon
Dreamon the Defender of Camelot (neutral)
He is slightly hurt.
His conscience will not stop him from killing other players.
He is rather wet.
Dreamon has a set of large fangs.
He has an aura of wisdom around him.
He is a Sisters of Mercy club member.
He is wearing a white cloak (worn).
You recognize the famous insignia of Camelot on it.
You also realize that he is allowed to hunt the guild's enemies.
Dreamon bears the aura of Paragon.
Dreamon is an Apprentice Lumberjack.
Dreamon is an average dart player.
Dreamon is a member of the Secret Police.
        Dreamon is carrying:
Dreamon's shell.
A party object (leader).
A pair of crystal fangs (worn).
A box of bandages [2].
A shiny helmet (worn).
Khezoog mak Duhr's plate mail (worn).
A steel tray (worn).
A pair of sheer silk gloves (worn).
A black amulet (worn).
Mercenary sword (wielded).
A small yellow orb.
A backpack (worn).
Bronze ring (worn).
A smelly sock.
A new Book of Quests.
A Lover's Locket.
A black Sisters Of Mercy shirt (proudly worn).
A golden watch.
A golden creditcard.
A white cloak (worn).
> Guard says: Cute. You might just regret this.
Guard dices Dreamon with his scimitar.
Guard nicked Dreamon in the stomach.
Dreamon hit Guard.
Guard nicked Dreamon in the stomach.
Dreamon deftly manages an extra swing and Guard staggers.
Dreamon grazed Guard.
shape dreamon
Guard dices Dreamon with his scimitar.
Guard slashed Dreamon in the chest.
Dreamon chops furiously at Guard's neck.
Guard screams loudly from the pain!
Dreamon hit Guard.
Dreamon leaves down.
That is not here.
> d
k
Southwestern courtyard <u e n>.
Dreamon the Defender of Camelot (neutral).
A watchwher.
Some sand.
> k
You tore out a large chunk of Dreamon's flesh.
> Yes, yes.
> r
r
** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Dreamon's throat.
> > Watchwher leaves east.
You tore out a large chunk of Dreamon's flesh.
** Dreamon is in very weak shape.
** BP: xxx/xxx
Dreamon chops a slice out of you.
** BP: xxx/xxx
Dreamon hit you very hard.
Dreamon leaves east.
e
You harmlessly brushed Dreamon with a claw.
Southern courtyard <w e n s>.
Dreamon the Defender of Camelot (neutral).
A watchwher.
A simple dirk.
> r
** BP: xxx/xxx
You make a vicious lunge for Dreamon's throat.
> Party: Experience points divided.
The secret police membership is secret property of the Secret Police,
and it cannot simply be dropped for anyone to find!
If you want to get rid of the membership, you must eat it.
[PK Information] Leane just killed Dreamon.
You are victorious!!!
[PK Information] From somewhere deep inside the temple you hear a voice saying:
                             Hail Leane!!!
You sink your claws into Dreamon's soul.
Dreamon died.
You killed Dreamon
** BP: xxx/xxx
You slowly drain corpse of Dreamon of all blood.
Some water drips from you.
Watchwher leaves east.
l
It's night here in the courtyard of the Hold.  Here in the southern end, the
light from the stars glitters off metal cast from the stalls of the previous
day.  Stray animals may wander around here at night when the Holdsmen are
asleep or busy at other nocturnal activities.
The heavy oak gates to the south are open.
  There are four obvious exits: west, east, north and south.
A withered husk.
A pair of crystal fangs.
A box of bandages [2].
A shiny helmet.
Khezoog mak Duhr's plate mail.
A steel tray.
A pair of sheer silk gloves.
A black amulet.
Mercenary sword.
A small yellow orb.
A backpack.
Bronze ring.
17992 gold coins.
Ghost of Dreamon.
A simple dirk.
> The mist left the game.
[Lumberline] Info: The trees live more peacefully as Some mist leaves the game.
get all
You can't carry the mercenary sword.
You take pair of silk gloves, 17992 coins, fangs, a plate mail, a bandage box, a
shiny helmet, a backpack, an orb, a tray, an amulet, a dirk and a ring.

> Lilith claims her tribute.
l
It's night here in the courtyard of the Hold.  Here in the southern end, the
light from the stars glitters off metal cast from the stalls of the previous
day.  Stray animals may wander around here at night when the Holdsmen are
asleep or busy at other nocturnal activities.
The heavy oak gates to the south are open.
  There are four obvious exits: west, east, north and south.
A withered husk.
Mercenary sword.
> Malfeithor tells you: wowoowowowowowo
Watchwher arrives.
[Bloodline] Malfeithor licks you upsidedown.
Guest tells you: Rock: toot toot, you killed dreamon :PPP Congratulations
Ramadan tells you: *HF*

[Allyene]

In a swamp <w n se>.
Your hunting falcon.
Nightfall the adventurer (good).
A Marsh Snake.
A Slimy Snake.
Avadonix arrives with his falcon.
k
> f
You slash a magnificent "E" on Nightfall's chest!
You missed Nightfall.
> You wave a wand of fireballs and Nightfall is hit by a fireball.
Party: Experience points divided.
The secret police membership is secret property of the Secret Police,
and it cannot simply be dropped for anyone to find!
If you want to get rid of the membership, you must eat it.
Nightfall died.
> ppp
The corpse is too big.
The corpse of Nightfall will not let itself be put into the backpack.
Couldn't put the corpse of Nightfall.
Sorry, but you failed to move anything.
> pp
Party [Avadonix]: heh
You put a backpack and 26409 coins in a backpack.
> [-Assembly-] Kherec: yay

[Allyene]

This is where all the delicous food that Mordor eats come from. There is a
refrigerator beside the left wall and a large bench to the north. It's a nice
odour in the room and you feel very hungry.
  There is one obvious exit: south.
Bhaal the master druid (nice).
Brad the grand druid (nasty).
An empty bottle.
> Phade arrives with his falcon.
Bhaal grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
Brad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
Spirit of cook stops Phade with a grin.
k
You missed Phade.
> Bhaal grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
Yes, yes.
> Bhaal grazed Phade.
Phade cut Bhaal lightly.
Brad hit Phade.
Phade burps.
Brad tries foolishly to attack a statue of refrigerator.
Bhaal grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
You slashed Phade in the chest.
You slashed Phade.
You nicked Phade in the stomach.
Bhaal hacked a wound in Phade.
Phade cut Bhaal lightly.
Brad hit Phade hard.
Brad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
Bhaal grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
You slashed Phade in the chest.
You cut Phade lightly.
You slashed Phade.
Bhaal missed Phade.
Phade missed Bhaal.
Brad hit Phade very hard.
Brad acks.
Phade quaffs down a canteen of icky liquid.
Phade looks as healthy as can be.
Brad tries foolishly to attack a statue of refrigerator.
Bhaal grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
You slashed Phade across the face.
You slashed Phade.
A powerful lightning is released from the sword.
You slashed Phade across the face.
Bhaal hacked a deep wound in Phade.
Phade slashed Bhaal across the face.
Brad hit Phade hard.
Phade's falcon flies from his arm and starts pecking and clawing
at Bhaal's eyes!
Bhaal grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
You slashed Phade across the face.
You missed Phade.
Bhaal hacked a deep wound in Phade.
Phade coolly plucks an eye from Bhaal's face.
Phade cut Bhaal lightly.
Brad hit Phade hard.
Brad tries foolishly to attack a statue of refrigerator.
Bhaal grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Phade!
A powerful lightning is released from the sword.
You slashed Phade in the chest.
You missed Phade.
You slashed Phade in the chest.
Bhaal grazed Phade.
Phade slashed Bhaal.
Spirit of cook stops Phade with a grin.
Phade tried, but failed to run away.
Brad hit Phade hard.
You slashed Phade.
You missed Phade.
You slashed Phade across the face.
Bhaal hacked a wound in Phade.
Phade slices Bhaal across the chest.
Phade slashed Bhaal.
Spirit of cook stops Phade with a grin.
Phade tried, but failed to run away.
Brad grazed Phade.
Brad tries foolishly to attack a statue of refrigerator.
Phade's falcon flies home.
Phade sighs sadly and will miss Juliette.
Party: Experience points divided.
Phade died.
You deal Some mist a stunning blow.
The mist left the game.

[Yavathol]

Nice logs!

[Allyene]

Village green <e w n s>.
Hara's hunting falcon.
Hara the Honourable Knight (good).
Forcas the potential Leper Messiah (Martyrium Corporeus).
Kael the Initiate Mythologist (demonic).
Fenix the Dark Lord (TaintedSun).
> ** HP: 204/210   SP: 210/210
** Forcas is in undamaged shape.
Forcas cut your chest.
Forcas waves a wand of fireballs and you are hit by a fireball.
** HP: 181/210   SP: 210/210
** Forcas is in undamaged shape.
Yes, yes.
> ** HP: 175/210   SP: 210/210
** Forcas is in undamaged shape.
Forcas cut your arm.
You point at yourself and turn the powers loose.
You cast the spell of Haste.
You feel yourself moving faster!
> You start to turn the great wheel. You rid your mind of all thought,
All is tranquility, all is harmony.

> Forcas waves a wand of fireballs and you are hit by a fireball.
** HP: 171/210   SP: 210/210
** Forcas is in undamaged shape.
What?
> > > > > > Forcas shivers with fear as he sees your forehead.
You seared Forcas' chest with magical energy.
** HP: 166/210   SP: 210/210
** Forcas is in undamaged shape.
Forcas cut your head.
You stunned Forcas' chest with a surge of magic.
> > > > > > Yogsothoth arrives.
> > > > > > You missed Forcas.
Forcas missed you.
Forcas pokes you with his finger, channeling his deadly disease.
You are now diseased.
The great wheel turns, unstoppable. You slowly complete the circle, cutting
Forcas effortlessly.
** HP: 166/210   SP: 167/210
** Forcas is in undamaged shape.
** HP: 159/210   SP: 167/210
** Forcas is in very good shape.
You take damage from hitting Forcas.
** HP: 156/210   SP: 167/210
** Forcas is in good shape.
You take damage from hitting Forcas.
You scourged Forcas' back with arcane energy.
You start to turn the great wheel. You rid your mind of all thought,
All is tranquility, all is harmony.

> > > > > > > > > > > Forcas pokes you with his finger, channeling his deadly disease.
You are now diseased.
You blasted Forcas into oblivion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The void in your blade engulfs Forcas. Where it touches, nothing remains.
You missed Forcas.
** HP: 153/210   SP: 167/210
** Forcas is in fairly poor shape.
Forcas scratched your arm lightly.
Forcas pokes you with his finger, channeling his deadly disease.
You are now diseased.
The great wheel turns, unstoppable. You slowly complete the circle, cutting
Forcas effortlessly.
** HP: 153/210   SP: 123/210
** Forcas is in fairly poor shape.
Forcas shivers with fear as he sees your forehead.
** HP: 139/210   SP: 123/210
** Forcas is in deplorable shape.
You annihilated Forcas in a furious prismatic storm.
You start to turn the great wheel. You rid your mind of all thought,
All is tranquility, all is harmony.

> > > > Hara leaves with his falcon north.
Forcas leaves south.
Forcas' body falls into pieces as it hits the ground.
A ghastly odour arises as Forcas falls to the ground.
** HP: 75/210   SP: 123/210
** Forcas is in deplorable shape.
Sockerbit swoons in a sudden thrash of light-headedness, weakness and pain.
[PK Information] Sockerbit just killed Forcas.
You are victorious!!!
[PK Information] From somewhere deep inside the temple you hear a voice saying:
                             Hail Sockerbit!!!
[Dark] Sockerbit just killed Forcas.
Forcas died.
You killed Forcas.
Your sudden movement disrupts your concentration.
Lane <d e w n s>.
A severed arm.
A severed arm.
A severed head.
A tainted torso.
A severed leg.
A severed leg.
A brass lantern (lit).
A brass lantern (lit).
A brass lantern (lit).
A brass lantern (lit).
A wand of fireballs.
A pair of steel gauntlets (tainted).
A jaguar skin (tainted).
A jaguar amulet (tainted).
A jaguar mask (tainted).
A longsword (tainted).
A suit of chainmail (tainted).
6693 gold coins.
Ghost of Forcas.
A withered husk.
> From what?
Sorry, but you failed to move anything.
> No 'sack' here!
> Nothing to get.
> Your conscience doesn't allow you to do that.
> Some mist blows south.
Great wheel who?
> Suddenly, you get very tired.
** HP: 75/210   SP: 121/210

[Allyene]

Probably the stupidiest PK party ever


At the sentry post <w e>.
Your hunting falcon.
Gateway the druid (nasty).
Silk the monastery servant (good).
Airaxe the druid (nice).
Reoddai the druid (evil).
Unholy the greater druid (nasty).
A sentry of the Guild of Knights.
Sentry's hunting falcon.
A sentry of the Guild of Knights.
Sentry's hunting falcon.
==> ** HP: 182/202   SP: 202/202
** Reoddai is in undamaged shape.
Reoddai cut you lightly.
Yes, yes.
==> Airaxe grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at you!
** HP: 181/202   SP: 202/202
** Reoddai is in undamaged shape.
Gateway missed Sentry.
You slashed Reoddai.
Gateway missed Sentry.
Gateway leaves west.
Sentry hacked a deep wound in Airaxe.
Sentry opened a wide bleeding gash in Airaxe.
** HP: 165/202   SP: 202/202
** Reoddai is in undamaged shape.
Unholy chopped a very deep wound in you.
** HP: 156/202   SP: 202/202
** Reoddai is in undamaged shape.
Reoddai slashed you.
** HP: 147/202   SP: 202/202
** Reoddai is in undamaged shape.
Airaxe dealt you serious frostbites.
** HP: 141/202   SP: 202/202
** Reoddai is in undamaged shape.
Unholy hacked a wound in you.
You cut Reoddai lightly.
Sentry grazed Airaxe.
Sentry grazed Reoddai.
** HP: 141/202   SP: 177/202
** Reoddai is in superior shape.
Your falcon scratches Reoddai in the face.
Reoddai grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at you!
** HP: 126/202   SP: 177/202
** Reoddai is in superior shape.
Reoddai missed you.
Airaxe missed you.
Unholy missed you.
You slashed Reoddai in the chest.
Sentry hacked a deep wound in Airaxe.
Sentry hacked a deep wound in Reoddai.
** HP: 126/202   SP: 152/202
** Reoddai is in very good shape.
Your falcon scratches Reoddai in the face.
Airaxe grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at you!
** HP: 124/202   SP: 152/202
** Reoddai is in good shape.
==> Reoddai grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at you!
** HP: 106/202   SP: 152/202
** Reoddai is in good shape.
==> Airaxe grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at you!
** HP: 97/202   SP: 152/202
** Reoddai is in good shape.
Silk chants a healing over Reoddai with the help of a healing herb
and he looks physically stronger.
** HP: 91/202   SP: 152/202
** Reoddai is in very good shape.
Reoddai slashed you.
** HP: 87/202   SP: 152/202
** Reoddai is in very good shape.
Airaxe numbed you.
Unholy missed you.
You slashed Reoddai.
Sentry grazed Airaxe.
Sentry hacked a wound in Reoddai.
** HP: 87/202   SP: 127/202
** Reoddai is in good shape.
Your falcon flies from your arm and starts pecking and clawing
at Reoddai's eyes!

==> ==> Reoddai grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at you!
** HP: 54/202   SP: 127/202
** Reoddai is in fair shape.

==> Silk chants a healing over Reoddai with the help of a healing herb
and he looks physically stronger.
A quiet road along the forest edge <w e>.
Your hunting falcon.
==> A bend in the road <e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==>
A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==> A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
[Trade] Alrick: bloodrage sword, anyone?
[-Assembly-] Fof: Is there an attack going on?
A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==> Plain near forest <w e n s se sw>.
Your hunting falcon.
==>
Plain <w e n s ne se nw sw>.
Your hunting falcon.
==> Gates <w e n s ne nw>.
Your hunting falcon.
==> Main hall <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A mithril plaque.
==> Hallway <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
The visitor board, containing 48 notes, 46 unread.
==>
** HP: 60/202   SP: 127/202
** HP: 60/202   SP: 133/202
You suddenly without reason get a bad headache.
** HP: 56/202   SP: 133/202
Hallway <u w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A silver plaque.
==>
Hallway <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==>
The Slaughtered Lamb <e>.
Your hunting falcon.
Monah's hunting falcon.
Monah the Exalted Knight (good).
Mary the beautiful bartender (gorgeous).
==>
[-Assembly-] Kipdog: nope
This is much too rich for you right now!
==>
Monah coolly drinks a bottle of milk.
The special rolls down your throat like a waterfall down a mountain top.
** HP: 81/202   SP: 133/202
==> Monah leaves with his falcon east.
[-Assembly-] Fof: Thanx

Mary smiles happily.
The special rolls down your throat like a waterfall down a mountain top.
** HP: 106/202   SP: 133/202
==>
The special rolls down your throat like a waterfall down a mountain top.
** HP: 131/202   SP: 133/202
Hallway <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Hallway <u w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Monah's hunting falcon.
Monah the Exalted Knight (good).
A silver plaque.
Hallway <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
The visitor board, containing 48 notes, 46 unread.
Main hall <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A mithril plaque.
==> Gates <w e n s ne nw>.
Your hunting falcon.
Plain <w e n s ne se nw sw>.
Your hunting falcon.
Plain near forest <w e n s se sw>.
Your hunting falcon.
==> A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==> A dirt track <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
[-Assembly-] Arthur: Jokah my boy!!  Welcome back to Camelot!!
A bend in the road <e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Silk the monastery servant (good).
Airaxe the druid (nice).
Reoddai the druid (evil).
Unholy the greater druid (nasty).
==> Unholy leaves north.
Reoddai leaves north.
Airaxe leaves north.
Silk leaves north.
Tamashivari island <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Silk the monastery servant (good).
Airaxe the druid (nice).
Reoddai the druid (evil).
Unholy the greater druid (nasty).
A dying Man.
==> Unholy leaves north.
Reoddai leaves north.
Airaxe leaves north.
Silk leaves north.
Monah arrives with his falcon.
Monah leaves with his falcon north.

A bend in the road <e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==>
Your hunting falcon.
A dying Man.
==>
An island <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==>
A bridge <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
==>
On a Bridge <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A small silver coin.
A Filthy Goblin.
==>
Shore <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
The ship Floating bucket.
The ship Stormpasser.
A salt-stained sign.
==>
Pass <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A cave leads west into Rand's area.
A dead oak tree.
==>
Plain <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Silk the monastery servant (good).
Airaxe the druid (nice).
Reoddai the druid (evil).
Unholy the greater druid (nasty).
A dead oak tree.
==> Unholy leaves north.
Reoddai leaves north.
Airaxe leaves north.
Silk leaves north.

Wilderness <n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Silk the monastery servant (good).
Airaxe the druid (nice).
Reoddai the druid (evil).
Unholy the greater druid (nasty).
A dead oak tree.
==> Lakshmi arrives.
Lakshmi leaves north.
Country road <w n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A dead oak tree.
==> Country road <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A dead oak tree.
==> Ingis lane <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A guard.
==> [-Assembly-] Aleea gasps in astonishment.
No Airaxe here !
==>
Unholy arrives.
Reoddai arrives.
Airaxe arrives.
Silk arrives.

You slashed Airaxe.
==> Unholy leaves north.
Reoddai leaves north.
Airaxe leaves north.
Silk leaves north.
No Reoddai here !
==> No Reoddai here !
==> No Reoddai here !
==> No Reoddai here !
==> No Reoddai here !
==> No Reoddai here !
==> No Reoddai here !
==> No Reoddai here !
==>

[-Assembly-] Jokah: hiya all
No Airaxe here !
==>

No Airaxe here !
==>
Lane <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A worker.
A small stand saying: The NannyMUD Times: January issue.
A dead oak tree.
==> Lane <d w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
A dead oak tree.
==>
You drive your sharp black longsword through Airaxe's heart!
Party: Experience points divided.
Airaxe died.
You missed some mist.
Village green <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Corpse of Airaxe.
Silk the monastery servant (good).
Ghost of Airaxe.
Reoddai the druid (evil).
Unholy the greater druid (nasty).
Mazrim the adventurer (good).
Fof the Distinguished Squire (good).
Teheran the disciple (saintly).
Groo the journeyman (nice).
A dead oak tree.
A lane leads south from here.
==>

You slashed Reoddai across the face.
==> Unholy leaves north.
Reoddai leaves north.
some mist blows north.
Silk leaves north.
Village church <w e n s>.
Your hunting falcon.
Silk the monastery servant (good).
Ghost of Airaxe.
Reoddai the druid (evil).
Unholy the greater druid (nasty).
Jokah the Champion of Camelot (Funny).
Nobody Minar-im-Simyar (evil).
A slightly cracked statue of Faith.
A slightly cracked statue of Clichedx.
==> Such actions are forbidden here.

[Allyene]

Mellissa arrives with her falcon.
You nicked Shrieker in the stomach.
>sp
You grab some spores from a leather pouch and hurl them at Shrieker!
** HP: 186/186   SP: 160/186
** Shrieker is in undamaged shape.
> Khazad drained all warmth from Shrieker.
Brad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Shrieker!
Mellissa uses some of her powers for the forthcoming blow.
Mellissa slices Brad across the chest.
Mellissa missed Brad.
sp
Brad hit Shrieker hard.
Shrieker missed Brad.
Shrieker grazed Brad.
Shrieker tickled Brad in the stomach.
You slashed Shrieker in the chest.
Mellissa missed Brad.
Mellissa's falcon rips and tears at Brad's chest.
You grab some spores from a leather pouch and hurl them at Shrieker!
** HP: 186/186   SP: 135/186
** Shrieker is in good shape.
> Khazad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Shrieker!
Brad waves a wand of fireballs and Shrieker is hit by a fireball.
Shrieker leaves west.
Brad hit Mellissa.
Mellissa uses some of her powers for the forthcoming blow.
Mellissa chopped a very deep wound in Brad.
Mellissa's falcon scratches Brad in the face.
sp
Cast against who?
> Brad missed Mellissa.
Mellissa misses Brad completely with a misdirected blow.
Mellissa missed Brad.
Mellissa's falcon lands on Brad's head and pecks lamely at it.
Khazad chilled Mellissa slightly.
Relkin leaves with his falcon south.
Party [Brad]: ack
Khazad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Mellissa!
Sax wonders.
Brad hit Mellissa hard.
Mellissa uses some of her powers for the forthcoming blow.
Mellissa missed Brad.
Mellissa's falcon lands on Brad's head and pecks lamely at it.
k
sp
You missed Mellissa.
> You grab some spores from a leather pouch and hurl them at Mellissa!
** HP: 186/186   SP: 110/186
** Mellissa is in good shape.
> Brad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Mellissa!
Khazad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Mellissa!
Khazad dealt Mellissa serious frostbites.
Brad dealt Mellissa a crushing blow.
Mellissa missed Brad.
Mellissa's falcon rips and tears at Brad's chest.
z
Brad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Mellissa!
z
You zap a lightning bolt on Mellissa.
Mellissa got it right in the chest!
Mellissa missed Brad.
Party: Experience points divided.
Mellissa's falcon flies home.
[PKersinfo] Acid just killed Mellissa.
You are victorious!!!
[PKersinfo] From somewhere deep inside the temple you hear a voice saying:
                       Hail Acid!!!
Mellissa died.
> Khazad grabs some spores from a leather pouch and hurls them at Mellissa!
You have to aim the wand at someone.
> some mist blows north.

[Kherec]

Back on the subject ... *grins*.

The big issue now, compared to before, is that with the new 'easy' system where people pop in and out whenever they feel like it, they always 'safely' rebuild their chars whenever they die, or just to make some more cash or get equipment (they simply logout until their time is up, a week or so?). By doing so, they effectively become like substitute teachers, they never stick around long enough to really bond with one another.

Back in the old day, you either were or were not. You had to team up with friends to recover, creating a strong bond with your brothers in arms, your leprous friends, your deviant dark brethren or your fellow kindred etc. This cut both ways, both friends and foes got closer to each other, you became someone's nemesis, arch-fiend and you had yours too that you continiously fought or persued whenever they were on.

Yes, it was rough, but it was what kept playerkilling interesting and fun. With that gone, the whole community effectively died out, something that the administration didn't see as a problem as some people whined about the old system since they didn't read the irreversable text when abolishing their angel and with the new system the administration could ignore these complaints ... so it's no surprise they payed no heed to the warning everyone echoed out when they asked playerkillers about what they would think about such a change.

[Sharky]

Just want to say 3 things:

1 - When I grow up I wanna be just like Allyene *bow respectfully*

Even as an RT I miss the PK duels that we could watch on the village green.

2 - I remember, 4-5 years ago the fascinating duels that so often took place on green Although I often didn't know the players fighting it was absolutely thrilling.

3 - Although I would like to give PK a try it probably won't happen in the near future... I know next to nothing about playerkilling and I didn't even know that the system had changed. With that in mind I'd like to give a suggestion:
Wouldn't it be simpler and more efficient to move back to the old hard PK system but make it so that the player loses no GXP if he's killed in PK, no matter what guild he is in (not even khorne)? Just a thought...