Great players, wtf is that?

[Carrion]

For me a great PLAYER is the one person that manages to make a rakn 10 khorne in less than 2h (RL), the one that makes it to PLM (potential leper messiah) in less than 2,5day logintime, the one that solves all the quests in just under a lifetime.

Given time to practice on this I'd say that just about everyone playing Nanny would pull those off. Having that kind of devotion, obviuously. Perhaps that's the mark of a player others think is great, he/she/it is _devoted_ to the game.

It's not the potint of getting higher in any guild or in Plevels, it's just how they'we done it.

True, and that's a bit why I started this thread in the first place, after listening in on some druids thinking how great Polar was getting all those P-levels... He 'just' was and is devoted enough to spend the time it takes to get that amount of NP. Simple. Or?

[Hewe]

I am one of those who think not everybody could get everything: I for instance played a lot at a time and only got to be paragon 2 and then died

For one reason or another, I wouldnt be able to be a very strong character. BUT I had a lot of fun at a time, which was the most important for me

I admire all those who achieved something, but like others -I guess- my greatest players are those I got to know a bit and had fun with

[Carrion]

I am one of those who think not everybody could get everything: I for instance played a lot at a time and only got to be paragon 2 and then died

For one reason or another, I wouldnt be able to be a very strong character. BUT I had a lot of fun at a time, which was the most important for me

I admire all those who achieved something, but like others -I guess- my greatest players are those I got to know a bit and had fun with

Paragon 2 is not 'only'. For me it indicates that you could have been paragon 10 or something if you really had wanted it. It just takes time and motivation.

[Hewe]

I think all that about "could" is hypothetical. My point is I played the game for real (my real) at a time and wanted to succeed, and that's what I got

[Carrion]

I think all that about "could" is hypothetical. My point is I played the game for real (my real) at a time and wanted to succeed, and that's what I got

Ok, you  might very well be the exception to my 'rule' But remember it's a huge step from 'playing 2-3 hours most days' to 'playing obsessively 8-10 hours every day for months'. When you have the proper amount of motivation, and the chance to do so, most of us can play a LOT (not many of us are even close to that motivation though).

[Hewe]

Of the people I met who said to be new like me, there was one who would get many things. He played for many hours and was intelligent and stubborn. But as you say, not everybody can have that type of motivation.

So you still didnt make me think that a new player can get those things you say that are so easy

[Carrion]

So you still didnt make me think that a new player can get those things you say that are so easy

This is obviously a huge mistake on my account, I never really meant that a total newbie could get to paragon level 10 or get 10k+ quest points or top dark guild. Hmm, that WOULD indeed be strange, 'cause you will not be a newbie when you have accomplished those tasks! But remember, everyone IS a newbie in the beginning, even those that have reached the questers toplist.

[Hewe]

To stop being a newbie one needs to put a lot of interest and stamina into it, I think I put some of that

[Kymn]

Good players of NannyMUD to me are those that can master all (or many of) the measurable aspects of the game: questing, exploring, partying, xping, playing up in guilds, pking etc. The great ones can also help newbies, be friendly towards other players, roleplay, discuss topics without throwing age/qp/xp/plvl around like validation for their opinion etc

Some of these attributes comes natural to some players, others have to put in work to get there, but most can get there if they want.

But when considering games, you'd have to take into account that they are much easier than RL, working, cleaning appartment, shopping, cooking food, training, remove weeds, cut the lawn, socialize, mend clothes, fix bikes/cars, do the laundry, iron the laundry, befriend the parents in law, raise kids, and being good at it, takes a lot more skill and dedication than a game ever will. Which is why games are so gratifying, since you get fast rewards for comparable little effort.

[Carrion]

...Which is why games are so gratifying, since you get fast rewards for comparable little effort.

Amen, brother, amen!

[Maggs]

The great ones can also help newbies, be friendly towards other players, roleplay, discuss topics without throwing age/qp/xp/plvl around like validation for their opinion etc

As opposed to throwing in ex-admin status I suppose.

[Kymn]

As opposed to throwing in ex-admin status I suppose.

As a rule I don't use it to help my argumentation. If I have done it to undermine someones reasoning, I am very sorry and ashamed.

I remember mentioning it once on these boards when jumping head first into a fiery debate in one of my first posts, in hindsight perhaps I shouldn't have.

My statement in this thread was a bit ambigious perhaps, I ment people who listens to others arguments regardless of qp/xp/plvl/age status.

[Maggs]

So Carrion, which players have impressed you - and were they
great?

M

[Carrion]

So Carrion, which players have impressed you - and were they
great?

M

Good question M... Not really sure I have ever really been impressed by what players have done in Nanny... I can be baffled by the sheer endurance and stamina some players show, playing a lot striving for some crazy goal. But not impressed. I've been kind of impressed by some plots I've heard of, the reasoning behind them (hearing about them in RL mostly). But, no, not really impressed by any mortal in Nanny. With wizards it's another story, I've definitely been impressed by the work some wizards have done, partly code-wise, but mostly theme-wise and/or imaginatively.
My limitless nostalgia, on the other hand, have given me some feeling of awe for a couple of players... Just to put some names on print here, I'll mention Gelbart, the first Head Hunter (with some more elderly seconds), Wrath with whom I tried to compete for top Khorne years back  ('96, then all of a sudden Rhuarc showed up), and finally (this time) Underdogg who was a truely excellent opponent. Please give us some of YOUR 'heroes', to keep this thread from dying!

[Kymn]

hehe Wrath, remember him setting up a client that ran all night that went to middle-earth to kill that infinite spawn kill there, recall, heal, sell, raise stats and such, and repeat  


One of the players that has impressed me (if anyone is interested) is Oriole, the way he dominated the quest scene and the playerkilling scene for so long, also a friendly player if you read between the lines (while squinting ) and I think I consider him a great player, though his some of his choices of character names could be debated hehe