Michel

[Snafu]

And Eresh hit the nail on the head...jerk...and the relationship to childishness.

I know one such person has changed a lot since the jerk days. But hey, all of our defitions of jerk may be different

Do you consider jerk as someone who is annoying or childish or mean, etc.

/Spamfu

[iznogoud]

I'm a jerk!  I hope...

Actually, I stopped playing because of jerks in the game, those responsible know whom they are.

[Yavathol]

And Eresh hit the nail on the head...jerk...and the relationship to childishness.

Do you consider jerk as someone who is annoying or childish or mean, etc.

/Spamfu

I agree that Eresh is on to something with the relationship between jerks and childishness.  Personally, I've always thought of the jerks as those who were just downright self-centered, selfish and... for lack of a beter word, narcissistic. 

I'll forego jumping up on the soapbox for now and leave my definition at that.

-Yavathol

[draculea]

 Ok, let's bring Michel back into the topic since I want to say a few words about him as well.
Now I haven't interacted with him too much on Nanny since I was still a newbie when he was roaming the land. But he was my classmate for 4 years in high school and I know his real self better than most of the nanny mudders.
Maybe this can enlighten you on his true self: he was smart, he knew it and he treated the rest of us accordingly. This kind of attitude can often make people call you a jerk. And to some extent they are perfectely right to do so. Of course, everyone changes over the years and I sure hope that he has grown up meanwhile.

[lillstrumpa]

he was smart, he knew it and he treated the rest of us accordingly. This kind of attitude can often make people call you a jerk. And to some extent they are perfectely right to do so.

Some would just call that anti-social personality disorder, especially regarding the self-righteous part of that explanation.

[Kherec]

Maybe this can enlighten you on his true self: he was smart, he knew it and he treated the rest of us accordingly. This kind of attitude can often make people call you a jerk. And to some extent they are perfectely right to do so. Of course, everyone changes over the years and I sure hope that he has grown up meanwhile.

Being a jerk has nothing to do with how smart you are. Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're somehow excused to act however you'd like. Acting superior or rude to people makes people think you're a jerk, whether or not you're brilliant or dumb as a doorknob, it makes no difference, you're still a jerk!

Now I'm not saying Michel was or wasn't a jerk, he wasn't towards me. But I do know that plenty of people act very differently online than they do in real life. I know a couple of brothers on Nanny who, in real life, one of them is nice and the other rude ... but on Nanny they act the other way around, the one who's nice in real life is rude, vice versa.

So how people act in real life doesn't necessarily have any bearing on how people act online.

[Maggs]

I found some level of arrogance with his plan. As I remember, it was a series of quotes
under Michel the xxxxx - where xxxx could be lover/playerkiller/explorer etc etc.

Someone told me (it may be absolute crap however) that this was a guy that got
thrown out of the knights for leading a group of newbs to pet??

Either way, I saw little intelligence in the way he got banned, taking Brom
on head on like that.

[Karzak]

There was a phase in which I was totally pissed off at a bunch of knights. And being friends with Karzak helped fuel that further. (Now that was a vamp with some attitude.)  That led to quite a few amusing events. So I suppose it is very likely that a large number of people think I was/am a total jerk. To be quite honest though, I have enjoyed my bad reputation to some extent. (That's very childish I know. But knowing that doesn't stop me from enjoying it anyway.)

Respect, Eresh. I hope we killed a bunch of guys! 

[Arbre]

Maggs, Michel was banished from Knights so many times that the Guild Heads gave the RTs leave to refuse him entry simply because he was Michel (in whatever incarnation.) He was not very adept at role play. I am sure he holds the record for the number of times anyone was refused entry into the guild. He was, fortunately, pretty easy to spot.

He had a problem with any authority and a penchant for pushing the envelope on rules. I think, deep down, he was an idealist and none of us lived up to his perfect expectations, and he sometimes used that as an excuse to do some of the things he did. That's not uncommon for teenagers.
 
Even so, he seemed to be a very bright young man, a very adept player, and as a person, I liked him. I hope he has done well in life.

[Ereshkigal]

Respect, Eresh. I hope we killed a bunch of guys! 

Heh, yes we did have some fun, particularly with the pet's wands that I used to gather as Ereshkigal. As for pk, I never went pk with Ereshkigal but I did with Lelwanis. I was kind of tickled to see that name in the log you put up. I wish I had that log of the fight in which you, me and Sockerbit took on a team of four knights. I think it is a great example of how effective vampires can be in pk. Karzak easily took hits from four knights while Sockerbit and I suddenly rushed into the room after a couple of rounds to obliterate one of the knights.

I have some very good memories (unfortunately no logs) of some of the "big" fights we were in. We had a bit of a war going on against Law and his buddies. I used to like fights that involved two or more big  groups(i.e. 3 or four people) hunting each other. Hmm... its kind of appropriate remembering Law in a thread about "being a jerk".... though perhaps Law was more of a cheater and bug abuser than a jerk. I had such mixed feelings when he and his buddy (with whom he used to share characters) were finally banished.  I wonder if anyone else remembers that bunch.

Eresh

[draculea]

Damn right I do

[Carrion]

Damn right I do

Mate, you're just trying to play with the big boys

[draculea]

 Mate, I know all of them ... in real life.

[Carrion]

Mate, I know all of them ... in real life.

Heh, those big boys are seldom very big (possibly around the waist maybe) in RL though

[Ereshkigal]

I am not sure how the word "big" came in. Most of them were just a bunch of annoying cheats.