Great players, wtf is that?

[Qwer]

Many sports don't require much intelligence, still the best are/were often called great one/s.

[Carrion]

Many sports don't require much intelligence, still the best are/were often called great one/s.

Definitely true, but it is still much harder to run 100 m under 10 seconds, than it is to top a guild in Nanny... Intelligence is just one property out of many, and you don't even need much of that either to 'master' Nanny!

[Ahriah]

In my most humble opinion, Intelligence is not necessarily larger brain capacity, greater amounts of knowledge, A person can have an immense amout of knowledge and no idea how to apply it.

So I looked up intelligence at Dictionary.com

in·tel·li·gence    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (n-tl-jns)
n.

1 The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.
2 The faculty of thought and reason.
3 Superior powers of mind.

Personally the first one hits home. Intelligence is the ability to pursue and apply things you do not know.  Take for instance the medical field. (easiest for me to do association with) A cardiologist is an extremely intelligent doctor, knows a great many things about the heart and is usually expanding their knowledge on a daily basis. An opthamalogist is parallel in knowledge but knows a minute amount about the heart as the cardiologist most likely knows a minute amound about eyes. Both of these medical doctors may have no clue how to put a new altenator belt in their BMWs, but their very intelligent Auto Mechanic does.

So where does that bring us on a MUDs level? Some people are excellent questors, me personally I seem to miss the details, whether due to impatience or attention deficit I do not know, I seem to be better at the Hack and Slash side of RPG. Some people know in more detail about equipment, or spells, Some are more all around. Does it make one player better than the next? Depends on your definition of great. I think this is being reiiterated from great already posted points. But may I state it again? just because one isnt #1 in the mud, doesnt mean they are not a great player. Just because one chooses to not go on to wizzard levels, doesnt mean they are not a great player. and ofc That newbie sitting in the green wide eyed in wonderment may be the most intelligent person on the mud. Not because they know more, but because they have the perserverance to chase and obtain knowledge and then utilize it in the best possible way.

Personally I like to think that all the people I have met on Nanny have intelligence. I cant offhand recall ever having met someone I was completely put out with on a knowledgeable level. Maturity of players sometimes lack, but then again this is a game, so immaturity would be a part of it right?    I enjoy myself immensely and absolutely love reading these posts, because I see an immense amount of intelligence here. And that ofc Keeps me Intrigued. Someone said Intellilgence was or was not needed to become great in Nanny. In a way the ability to log on seek out a game for fun that provides the entertainment and fellowship  that nanny does IMO is a great start on Intelligence. A player choses to hack and slash their way to the top, WOO HOO. Its fun lets out aggression, a repetitive motion to help lift the worries and eccentricities of real life, One chooses the questors path, has my most admiration, That is a path I cannot follow as well. Does it make me less in intelligent less of a good player, I hope not. I like to explore I like to play with weapons and armours learning new spells, Tweaking my characters to see the best combinations.

Thats just my humble opinion that probably strayed so far from the point most would have a hard time following it. So I hope someone got what I was trying to say....

but then again Im forever the Optimist

-Ahriah

[Carrion]

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Thats just my humble opinion that probably strayed so far from the point most would have a hard time following it. So I hope someone got what I was trying to say....

but then again Im forever the Optimist

-Ahriah

Good post there, A! And I wholeheartedly (spell?) agree about the enjoyment of reading a lot of posts here on spamfunet.

[Maggs]

There are many ways to progress and enjoy yourself in the game, and I hope you do just that.

Kyron, Bombadill, Kurgan, Rhaurc, Nemesis, Baran, Polar, Dtk and probably at few more, are great players as far as I'm concerned.

I respect people that achieve things.

Maggs

[Kherec]

Polar, to me, is the embodiment of what removing quests had done to Nanny ... an 'energizer bunny'-like druid becoming paragon level 12 (or is he higher now?) with next to no quests solved (in comparison).

While I don't consider him a great player, I do admire the persistancy of playing a druid up to paragon level 12 ... although I wouldn't dream of wasting that effort on a druid, personally

[Arbre]

To me the greatest players were the ones who learned the mud, solved quests, and pushed the limits of their guild abilities. But the truly great did one more thing. They were fun to group with, fun to be online with.

Working in parties with people like Gilthoniel, The Three Amigos (in any form, those Danes were the best), Eddy and a few others were like being a part of a precision highwire act with pie throwing, and a touch of swash-buckling.

Tenacity, innovation, creativity, humor and a dash of role-playing is what makes the truly great players.

Rhuarc and Michel, from my vantage point, appeared to be simply people with great clients, excellent connections and a lot of time. I have to admit tho, Michel knew how to push the limits.

[Carrion]

Rhuarc and Michel, from my vantage point, appeared to be simply people with great clients, excellent connections and a lot of time. I have to admit tho, Michel knew how to push the limits.

I must admit I read that as 'simple people'

[Qwer]

I don't think that a player needs to party or chat to become great. That is pretty much optional. For me, it's not about socialising skills, but playing the game.
Btw, I suppose those 'great clients' are not publicly available but were just regular mudclients, customized by these players. Something that we all do (or, does Oriole still use raw telnet?). Okay then, at least the shell.

[Kadagar]

I might not be a great player, but in my opinion, I had the greatest character ever in Nanny, or at least during the time that I've played (since 97) - Khadgar the World Largest Kitten, a top 5 quester, that character was a power-player like no other, and this during a time when vampires were the most bs ever. If this wasn't the greatest character of all time, it would at least be a top 5 (since I don't know how the players were prior of 97).

[Carrion]

(since I don't know how the players were prior of 97).

I don't hardly know any players born after '95.

[Snafu]

It's funny how 'ancient' depends on who you talk to. To some people who have only been on Nanny a few years, they are ancient...but when compared to others of us such as Carrion and me, totally different views on ancient. As for how that ties to Great players...maybe Great Players are also those who have perservered through the years and are ancient as well as great

/Snafu

[Yavathol]

It's funny how 'ancient' depends on who you talk to.

No kidding!  I still feel new to the game and yet many of the current players who are highly active refer to me as an old character all the time.  It's actually been a little disorienting.  

[Hellspawn]

For me, a great PLAYER is the player tha manages to do anything better and faster than most others. Not the typical powerplayer that kills like obsessed same monsters for years, the great players r not necesarily the highest players in one guild. For me a great PLAYER is the one person that manages to make a rakn 10 khorne in less than 2h (RL), the one that makes it to PLM (potential leper messiah) in less than 2,5day logintime, the one that solves all the quests in just under a lifetime.
Most of the players that I saw mentioned before r the leading chars in some guilds, I dont say they r not good players but it takes more than beeing good for greatness. I dont realy think that Michele was a great player cause it was the top vamp donor for years, or the first to be kissed by Lilith, or for still beeng the top pk in the game, he's a great player for the way he did it.
Kurgan is a good player no doubt but let's see... it took him like a few years to be what he is, Nono in the other hand done it in under 1 year that, for me, makes him great. Take Rowen, he was oracle for a while does that make him a great player??? lol I guess we know Rowen better than that.
And for Carrion's next comment (that will shure be earthshatering and smart and to the point of the topic that he opened) it's just a game ofc u dont have to be Einstein to manage to be great at it, but leaving the other facts of life, there are a few great NANNY PLAYERS.

What did Michel do, except playing A LOT?

I still think almost everyone would be able to top Rhuarc in khorne, Michel in vampires, Bombadill in cultists etc...

It's not the potint of getting higher in any guild or in Plevels, it's just how they'we done it.

[Snafu]

Another mark of being a great player may be finding new things to do after playing the game for so long Call it a professional player if there ever were such a thing. I know a few who will not become a paragon but continue to play as regular mortal (among them being Oriole). Being a great player has a lot to do with attitude too, and I'm not talking about bad attitude but how you view things (frame of mind). Another thing is not letting it get to your head.

/Snafu